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The Ezra Klein Show

Kamala Harris Wants to Win

The Ezra Klein Show

New York Times Opinion

Society & Culture, Government, News

4.611K Ratings

🗓️ 23 August 2024

⏱️ 44 minutes

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Summary

On Thursday night, Kamala Harris reintroduced herself to America. And by the standards of Democratic convention speeches, this one was pretty unusual. In this conversation I’m joined by my editor, Aaron Retica, to discuss what Harris’s speech reveals about the candidate, the campaign she’s going to run and how she believes she can win in November. Mentioned: The Truths We Hold by Kamala Harris Thoughts? Guest suggestions? Email us at [email protected]. You can find transcripts (posted midday) and more episodes of “The Ezra Klein Show” at nytimes.com/ezra-klein-podcast. Book recommendations from all our guests are listed at https://www.nytimes.com/article/ezra-klein-show-book-recs. This episode of “The Ezra Klein Show” was produced by Claire Gordon. Fact-checking by Michelle Harris, with Jack McCordick. Our senior engineer is Jeff Geld, with additional mixing by Aman Sahota. Our senior editor is Claire Gordon. The show’s production team also includes Annie Galvin, Rollin Hu, Elias Isquith and Kristin Lin. Original music by Isaac Jones. Audience strategy by Kristina Samulewski and Shannon Busta. The executive producer of New York Times Opinion Audio is Annie-Rose Strasser.

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0:00.0

From New York Times opinion, this is the Ezra Klein Show. It is Thursday, August 22nd. We are just back from the arena having watched

0:28.9

Kamala Harris accept Democratic nomination for president. She gave a speech I think was quite

0:34.6

extraordinary and also quite unusual by the standards of recent Democratic

0:40.0

Convention speeches. She did quite a lot I think to define herself to the country

0:44.4

but also did define what kind of campaign she's going to run, what her

0:48.6

campaign's theory of this election and a victory in it would be. I'm joined here by my revered editor

0:54.0

Aaron Redica. Aaron welcome back to the show. Thanks. Let's cast our minds back

1:00.3

to the Paleolithic era by by which I mean, you know, July.

1:05.0

And just stop for a second and talk about the Republican Convention

1:08.9

and where things seemed while that was happening,

1:11.5

and then we're going to of course turn to the events this

1:14.1

we can particularly Kamala speech tonight. How would you contrast first

1:18.9

before we get into the nitty gritty of what she said, the overall feeling of the Republican Convention

1:25.3

when it looked to the Republicans like they were going to win, and this week in Chicago. Republicans ran a convention like they had already won,

1:39.0

and Democrats ran a convention like they wanted to win.

1:43.0

Everybody I talked to there, I was not myself in Milwaukee, said this.

1:48.0

The dominant mood at the Republic Convention was it was like the Victory Night Party, right?

1:52.0

That's what Tim Alberta said on the show from the Atlantic.

1:54.5

And I think you saw that in Donald Trump's speech. You also saw that by the way in

1:59.2

Donald Trump's choice of JD Vance, which I think has proven to be unwise. But you saw it in his speech that night.

2:06.9

It was self-indulgent. It was first, and do remember the context, he had just suffered an assassination attempt.

2:15.7

It was a long retelling of that, followed by an extremely long, all over the place, unfocused, rally-like performance by Trump.

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