This is Sarah Stewart Holland. This is Beth Silver's. You're listening to Pantsu Politics, where we take a different approach to the news. Thank you so much for joining us. Today we're going to talk about Kamla Harris's Fox News interview,

as well as some of Donald Trump's more recent appearances.

And how all of that is helping us think about communicating with our friends and

family about this election. Outside of politics we're going to continue to talk

about communication but we're going to talk about online communication. an email.

Ann Patchet wrote an essay for the New York Times on her regrets about ever signing

up for email in the first place, but it left Beth inspired to email some more.

And we're talking about that at the end of the show. Before we do, we are

sharing in many places, many times, in many ways this week that we have made a big

move. We've taken a hard look at the health of our business this year and realized that the

most rewarding work that we do, the most fun work we do, and the work that keeps our business the most stable is all in making two

additional podcast for our listeners who financially support the show so that it can continue

to be free. In the mornings,

Sarah starts off your daily news practice by telling you what you need to know from

the headlines. She curates and tells you what's important, what you should care about, or what's delightful, and gives you her thoughts on those issues on Thursdays.

She focuses exclusively on good news so that you can really see progress in the world and

this is real good news not just feel good news not stories of people being nice to

each other but seeing the world evolve in positive ways.

So it's a really wonderful part of staying informed

without feeling depleted.

And that's our mission here.

In the afternoons, I make about a 10 to 20 minute podcast called More to Say,

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