When the Western artist George Catlin journeyed to the Southern Plains in 1834, the animal that caught his attention there was the wild horse, which covered the country in immense herds.

Little known to Catlin or to Thomas Jefferson who longed to know more about horses in their natural state.

Horses were so successful in the Western wilds because they

were original natives of North America. Eventually, a trade in wild horses dominated the southern

west. It became an unexpected success and mustangers, a working class phenomenon of the West.

Learn more on episode 11 of the American West with Dan Flores, the latest show from the Meat

Eater Podcast Network, hosted by me, writer and historian Dan Flores, and brought to you by

Velvet Buck, Wine with a Backbone.

By focusing on deep time, wild animals, and the West's unique environments,

this podcast is a look at a West available nowhere else.

Tune in now to the American West on Apple, IHeart, YouTube, or wherever you get your podcasts.

From the free press, this is Honestly, and I'm Barry Weiss.

Last month, we ran an episode here by one of our amazing reporters, Eli Lake, that took us

back to the tumultuous year of 1968, when President

Lyndon Johnson dropped out of his own re-election campaign and the resulting turmoil at the Democratic

Convention that summer in Chicago that followed.

Now, at the time, of course, Joe Biden was still in the race, and Eli was guiding us through that

history lesson in order to help us make sense of the present moment and to indicate what might

happen next. Today, Eli's back to do what he does like absolutely no one else, to look back in time

to help us make sense of our baffling present.

The current vice president, Harris, is now the presumptive Democratic presidential nominee.

She's got the wind at her back, though she hasn't given a single interview, since she was named,

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