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We're back at 5 o'clock.

Yesterday we had a very special show. I can actually hear. You can hear me today. So I'm excited about that. And we have a very interesting, I think a great show and a great group of people to talk about it with. And people who know this particular thing that we're talking about, this whole idea of how people

identify and race. Some of the people you see on the screen were with me throughout this as we

went through this back with Barack Obama back in 2008, 2009, and even 2011 and 12 with the

whole birth certificate thing. And is he black enough? And so on and so forth. As you know, the current vice president and now Democratic presidential candidate, Kamala Harris,

has been, you know, the former president went to NABJ yesterday, National Association of Black Journalists Convention, spoke and then pretended not to know that the vice president is black,

right?

I thought she was Indian.

So anyway, I think it's a targeted attack.

I'm joined now by Tara Sett Marsh.

She's a co-founder and CEO of the Seneca Project, an MSNBC contributor and a dear

friend of mine and a friend of the show.

Same thing with Charles Blow, New York Times columnist and NSNBC political analysts, a dear friend of mine and a friend of the show. Same thing with Charles Blow, New York Times

columnist and NSNBC political analysts, a dear friend of mine, old friend, and friend of the show.

And then Sanjut Dunn Young, right? Did I say that, Sanjut?

Right. Judge Dunn, yes. Thank you. Thank you very much.

As an author and entrepreneur and the founder and CEO of Atma Global and a new friend,

and I hope that we can have her on the show many, many times in the future.

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