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I'm Jocelyn K. Gly, and this is Hurry Slowly. Today, I'm in conversation with Kamal Kapadia.

Why does climate change exist? It's because our human relationships are broken.

And what I mean by that is our economic systems are broken, our political systems are broken,

but those are just at-scale manifestations of human relationships.

The way we sort of relate to each other economically,

the way we relate to each other in terms of our power relationships.

And because these systems are broken,

we have a planet in crisis.

And so I think what we actually are trying to do

is rethink our human relationships.

And in order to care for this planet, we have to care for each

other. Kamala Kapadia is the co-founder and chief learning officer of Tara.com. An online school for

climate action that is striving to enlist and educate 100 million people from all over the globe

to work on climate change solutions.

Tara offers an ever-expanding range of courses from their flagship program,

which is a 12-week course called Climate Change Learning for Action,

to climate change programs for VCs, for entrepreneurs, for software developers, and for designers.

They also offer a climate farm school, a corporate sustainability program,

and courses to help folks transition from careers in oil and gas to clean energy.

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