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Happy & Healthy with Jeanine Amapola Ward

Kaleb Tell All: Marriage with Jeanine, Insecurities & How Law School Has Changed Him

Happy & Healthy with Jeanine Amapola Ward

That Sounds Fun Network

Relationships, Society & Culture, Religion & Spirituality, Christianity

4.82K Ratings

🗓️ 5 May 2026

⏱️ 65 minutes

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Summary

This episode is just me, Kaleb, answering your questions in the middle of one of the busiest seasons I’ve ever been in—finals week, being away from my wife and son, and feeling stretched in every direction. I talk honestly about how much I’ve grown through law school, how I used to believe lies about myself, and how that’s completely changed. I open up about what it’s like stepping into Jeanine’s world, dealing with social media, criticism, and learning how to stay grounded in who I actually am. I also share what I do for work, and why I believe you can turn your passions into a career if you’re willing to step out of your comfort zone. At the end of the day, this episode is really just me being honest about where I’m at, what I’m learning, and hopefully encouraging you to go after the things you feel called to—even if you don’t feel ready. In this Episode 05:30 – Marrying into Jeanine’s platform & staying true to myself10:00 – What I actually do for work (social media explained)13:00 – Rant: why people misunderstand content creators19:15 – My future: law, business & big dreams23:30 – Summer plans & launching my consulting company24:30 – How much money lawyers really make27:00 – Routine, time management & staying connected in marriage28:50 – Confidence, growth & doing hard things33:00 – Comparison & imposter syndrome37:30 – Faith, loneliness & depending on God49:30 – Future plans, handling hate & final encouragement Thanks to Our Sponsors BetterHelp: This episode is sponsored by BetterHelp. Get 10% off your first month at betterhelp.com/HAPPYHEALTHY Shopify: Learn more at Shopify.com Wayfair: Get organized, refreshed, and back on track this new year for WAY less. Head to ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Wayfair.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ right now to shop all things home. Grand Canyon University: Visit ⁠GCU.edu⁠ to learn more. If you’d like to partner with Jeanine as a sponsor for the Happy & Healthy podcast, fill out our ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Advertise With Us⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ form! Follow us on Instagram!⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Happy and Healthy⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Jeanine⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Jeanine and Kaleb⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Follow us on TikTok! ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Happy and Healthy⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Jeanine Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

Starting something new is honestly terrifying. I remember right before I launched my podcast and started

0:04.7

building my business and launching merch, I had so many doubts like, what if no one listens and what if no one

0:09.7

buys anything? And what if I put in all the work? And it just doesn't work. But choosing to take a leap

0:14.5

even with all the uncertainty ended up being one of my best decisions I've ever made. And having the

0:19.4

right tools make such a difference.

0:25.0

Like I can't even imagine trying to do it all without a platform that actually supports you.

0:30.9

And that is where Shopify comes in. Shopify is a commerce platform behind millions of businesses around the world. And it really gives you everything you need all in one place. And you can build a beautiful online store with easy, ready to use templates that actually

0:38.0

match your brand. And I love that Shopify has built-in AI tools that help you with things like

0:42.3

writing product descriptions or improving your photos because those little things add up. Plus, it

0:46.6

helps your market reach your business too. You can create email and social campaigns so your brand

0:50.6

reaches people everywhere, wherever they are. And everything from inventory to payments to analytics,

0:55.5

it is all in one place which makes just running your business feel way less overwhelming.

0:59.1

If you ever get stuck, they've got 24-7 support,

1:02.2

which is huge when you're figuring things out as you go.

1:05.1

It's time to turn those what-ifs into with Shopify today.

1:09.6

Sign up for your $1 per month trial today at Shopify.com slash healthy.

1:14.5

Go to shopify.com slash healthy. That's Shopify.com slash healthy.

1:20.8

What do you do for work? Now, I'm about to go on like a tangent right now. Somebody can be

1:25.7

really flawed and someone can also still be a really, really, really good person.

1:29.4

What is the best part about being married to Janine?

1:32.6

I had somebody put their hands on my shoulders and have so much belief in me.

1:38.8

I'm emotional because it's coming to an end and I just can't believe I made it through.

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