Kaitlyn's Baby | Episode 6: A problem like Kaitlyn
The Con: Kaitlyn's Baby
CBC + BBC World Service
4.2 • 929 Ratings
🗓️ 17 February 2025
⏱️ 31 minutes
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Summary
At Kaitlyn Braun’s sentencing hearing, victim impact statements are shared. A court-ordered report lists concerns about Kaitlyn’s risk to reoffend. Would house arrest, probation and restricted internet access be enough? Unexpectedly, the judge says he needs more time before making a decision, urging the lawyers to come up with a better offer. Psychological experts weigh in on the complexity of cases like Kaitlyn’s, exploring questions about intent versus compulsion.
Content warning: This episode contains strong language and references to baby loss and sexual behaviour.
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| 0:00.0 | 1942, Europe. |
| 0:03.4 | Soldiers find a boy surviving alone in the woods. |
| 0:07.3 | They make him a member of Hitler's army. |
| 0:11.0 | But what no one would know for decades, he was Jewish. |
| 0:16.0 | Could a story so unbelievable be true? |
| 0:20.7 | I'm Dan Goberg and from CBC's personally, Toy Soldier. |
| 0:26.0 | Available now, wherever you get your podcasts. |
| 0:30.3 | A BBC World Service and CBC podcast production. |
| 0:34.6 | A warning. This episode contains references to sexual assault. |
| 0:42.3 | Okay, so you want me to start right at the beginning? |
| 0:48.3 | So, um, COVID had to hit. |
| 0:51.3 | Uh, big chime. And women who were pregnant were in an absolute panic. |
| 0:59.0 | This is Verena Henchy. |
| 1:00.9 | She's a doula based in Lincolnshire, England, 3,500 miles away from Brantford, Ontario. |
| 1:08.2 | So quite a few of us dealers got together together and we decided that we would offer an emergency |
| 1:14.2 | service, that we would pro bono offer our number out for people to contact us so that we could |
| 1:21.0 | give them some support over the phone. And I got an early evening call and it said, |
| 1:28.3 | Hello, I'm the first time mom. |
| 1:30.3 | I've just turned 39 weeks yesterday. |
| 1:33.3 | She continued to contact me by text many, many times over the next few hours. |
| 1:42.3 | And then eventually she gets in touch with her over the next few hours. |
| 1:50.2 | And then eventually, she gets in touch with me verbally on the phone and starts to talk with her through her labour |
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