Kaitlyn's Baby | Episode 6: A problem like Kaitlyn

The Con: Kaitlyn's Baby

CBC + BBC World Service

True Crime

4.2 • 707 Ratings

🗓️ 17 February 2025

⏱️ 31 minutes

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Summary

At Kaitlyn Braun’s sentencing hearing, victim impact statements are shared. A court-ordered report lists concerns about Kaitlyn’s risk to reoffend. Would house arrest, probation and restricted internet access be enough? Unexpectedly, the judge says he needs more time before making a decision, urging the lawyers to come up with a better offer. Psychological experts weigh in on the complexity of cases like Kaitlyn’s, exploring questions about intent versus compulsion.

Content warning: This episode contains strong language and references to baby loss and sexual behaviour.

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0:00.0	1942, Europe.
0:03.4	Soldiers find a boy surviving alone in the woods.
0:07.3	They make him a member of Hitler's army.
0:11.0	But what no one would know for decades, he was Jewish.
0:16.0	Could a story so unbelievable be true?
0:20.7	I'm Dan Goberg and from CBC's personally, Toy Soldier.
0:26.0	Available now, wherever you get your podcasts.
0:30.3	A BBC World Service and CBC podcast production.
0:34.6	A warning. This episode contains references to sexual assault.
0:42.3	Okay, so you want me to start right at the beginning?
0:48.3	So, um, COVID had to hit.
0:51.3	Uh, big chime. And women who were pregnant were in an absolute panic.
0:59.0	This is Verena Henchy.
1:00.9	She's a doula based in Lincolnshire, England, 3,500 miles away from Brantford, Ontario.
1:08.2	So quite a few of us dealers got together together and we decided that we would offer an emergency
1:14.2	service, that we would pro bono offer our number out for people to contact us so that we could
1:21.0	give them some support over the phone. And I got an early evening call and it said,
1:28.3	Hello, I'm the first time mom.
1:30.3	I've just turned 39 weeks yesterday.
1:33.3	She continued to contact me by text many, many times over the next few hours.
1:42.3	And then eventually she gets in touch with her over the next few hours.
1:50.2	And then eventually, she gets in touch with me verbally on the phone and starts to talk with her through her labour
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