Kaitlyn's Baby | Episode 1: The barking dog

The Con: Kaitlyn's Baby

CBC + BBC World Service

True Crime

4.2 • 707 Ratings

🗓️ 13 January 2025

⏱️ 40 minutes

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Summary

Amy, a seasoned doula, is bedridden due to illness when she receives a call from fellow doula Katie to assist a client, Kaitlyn, over the phone. Kaitlyn is pregnant as a result of sexual assault and has just learned her baby will be stillborn. Over the next 10 days, Amy and Katie are swept into Kaitlyn's escalating crises — bleeding disorders, a hysterectomy, cancer, and seemingly predatory doctors — while supporting her emotionally, over the phone. Despite exhaustion and their own trauma, they unquestioningly focus on Kaitlyn's needs. However, when Amy’s girlfriend points out strange details in Kaitlyn's story, alarm bells ring. A dog barks during a call where Kaitlyn claims she’s in the hospital, and photos Kaitlyn sent of her stillborn are traced back to Wikipedia. Something isn't right.

Content warning: This episode contains references to medical emergencies, including baby loss. We also deal with sexual assault and there is some strong language.

Transcript

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0:00.0	When a body is discovered 10 miles out to sea, it sparks a mind-blowing police investigation.
0:07.1	There's a man living in its address, in the name of deceased.
0:10.5	He's one of the most wanted men in the world.
0:13.6	This isn't really happening.
0:15.0	Officers finding large sums of money.
0:17.4	It's a tale of murder, skullduggery, and international intrigue. So who really is he?
0:24.0	I'm Sam Mullins, and this is Sea of Lies from CBC's Uncover. Available now.
0:31.0	A BBC World Service and CBC podcast production.
0:34.8	A warning. This story contains references to medical emergencies, including baby loss.
0:40.9	We also deal with sexual assault, and there is some strong language. Please take care.
0:52.5	It's a Friday night in November 2022.
0:55.0	Amy Perry is at home, in a town just west of Toronto, Canada, and she's sick.
1:01.0	It was fighting an RSV virus that was going around, so I was going to be home, not doing anything.
1:07.0	She was spending most of her time in bed, bored and scrolling on Facebook.
1:12.5	I manage a Facebook group for local birth workers called Placenta Squad.
1:17.6	I just love that name, Placenta Squad. Amy, along with most of the Placenta Squad, is a
1:24.6	dula. I'm coming up on eight years.
1:28.3	Yeah, I've been a doula for a long time.
1:30.0	I've attended over 100 births now, and it's been a ride.
1:35.2	Dula's work with pregnant people.
1:37.8	They're not medical professionals.
1:40.0	They assist people through labor and delivery by offering emotional support.
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