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Kaiser Therapists Battle to Fend Off Artificial Intelligence

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4.2 • 726 Ratings

🗓️ 17 December 2025

⏱️ 54 minutes

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Summary

In recent contract negotiations, Kaiser Permanente therapists asked for language to specify that artificial intelligence would not “replace” humans in mental health care, but the employer has so far refused. Kaiser already uses AI technology in mental health care to take notes and create summaries, but Kaiser therapists worry further use of the technology could usurp their jobs. We talk about the ways AI may be entering our mental health care system and how it could affect therapists and their patients. Guests: April Dembosky, health correspondent, KQED News Jodi Halpern, professor of bioethics and chancellor's chair, University of California, Berkeley Vanessa Coe, secretary–treasurer, National Union of Healthcare Workers Anna Benassi, therapist, associate professor and executive director of clinics, California Institute of Integral Studies Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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