Kaiser interviews Gordon Chang!
Sinica Podcast
Kaiser Kuo
4.8 • 676 Ratings
🗓️ 14 May 2020
⏱️ 50 minutes
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Summary
No, not that Gordon Chang. The other one: the good one. Gordon H. Chang is a professor of American history at Stanford University, where he is also the Olive H. Palmer Professor in Humanities and the senior associate vice provost for undergraduate education. In this prelapsarian podcast, taped on December 19, Gordon chats with Kaiser about the rising tide of Sinophobia — presaging things to come once Trump really started fanning the flames during the present pandemic.
12:15: American perceptions of China and Chinese people
20:54: A legacy of discrimination against Chinese scientists in the U.S.
31:43: The role of universities in pushing back against xenophobia
35:47: Espionage fears and restrictions against Chinese researchers
Recommendations:
Gordon: The Transpacific Experiment: How China and California Collaborate and Compete for Our Future, by Matt Sheehan.
Kaiser: The Scientist and the Spy: A True Story of China, the FBI, and Industrial Espionage, by Mara Hvistendahl.
This podcast was edited and produced by Kaiser Kuo and Jason MacRonald.
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| 0:00.0 | This series of California-based podcasts is brought to you in partnership with the Serraka Initiative, our nonprofit program. |
| 0:08.0 | The mission of the Serraka Initiative is to produce independent educational and public awareness programming |
| 0:13.0 | to make the U.S. and global public better informed about China. |
| 0:28.6 | Welcome to the cynical podcast, |
| 0:30.4 | a weekly discussion of current affairs in China, |
| 0:32.2 | produced in partnership with SubChina. |
| 0:36.7 | SubChina is simply the best way there is to keep on top of all the important news coming out of China. |
| 0:40.7 | Our indispensable daily newsletter features a roundup of the news from hundreds of sources, |
| 0:43.9 | plus links to the original writing on our website. |
| 0:47.7 | It's hanging up for sub-China access, and you get all that and much more, |
| 0:52.4 | with stories on everything from the Belt and Road to Local Entrepreneurship and Innovation in China, |
| 0:55.2 | from the travails of ethnically Chinese researchers in the U.S. in this age of creeping McCarthyism, something we will be discussing in detail |
| 0:59.4 | today, to China's ongoing extralegal internment of hundreds of thousands or, by some estimates, |
| 1:04.8 | over a million Uyghurs and other Muslims in China's Xinjiang region. |
| 1:08.8 | We are sure you'll agree it's a feast of business, political, and cultural news about a nation |
| 1:13.8 | that is reshaping the world. |
| 1:16.1 | I'm Kaiser Guo, and today I am at Stanford University, fourth stop on this South-North |
| 1:20.3 | Sinicature of the Golden State. |
| 1:22.8 | One of the most troubling, and for many people, I hope, one of the most appalling consequences |
| 1:27.0 | of the onset ofalling consequences of the |
| 1:27.8 | onset of this new phase of Sino-American competition that we're now in has been the rise |
| 1:32.7 | of American synophobia. We've seen this in some of the alarmist, if not fully, paranoid |
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