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Joe.

I'm real good, man. How are you going?

I'm real good, man.

How are you?

Yeah.

What's that mean?

I'm just like, eh.

Oh, yeah, because it's that part of the year where it's just like, it's like only the pirates, right?

Well, yeah, and like the Steelers, you have to bisect every little bit of the minutia,

even though, you know, OTAs mean nothing, mini camp means nothing, and then they just go 10 and 7 to lose in the playoffs. It's always the same thing. Right. So I just get bored to tears with it.

What about the, do you think that Aaron Rogers behind the scenes navigated the Miles Garrett trade out of the division?

Well, last year, when we lost the Cleveland, at the end of the year, the Steelers did.

One reason the Steelers played badly and Rogers did, he was just trying to avoid being sacked by Garrett

because he wanted to keep Garrett from getting the single season sack record.

That was so evident with the way he approached the game.

That said, he doesn't like to get hit by anybody, but in particular went nowhere near Garrett.

But Garrett got the record anyway and then got traded to the Rams.

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