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🗓️ 2 February 2025
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0:00.0 | I've gone back and I looked at some of the headlines from that period, |
0:03.2 | and there were things like JWST has broken cosmology. |
0:06.9 | It's broken the universe. |
0:08.2 | Broken was used a lot. |
0:09.6 | After everything died down, I thought that wasn't breakage. |
0:12.0 | That was science. |
0:13.1 | Richard Panic. |
0:14.2 | So great to see you again. |
0:15.4 | Three years after our last conversation. |
0:18.1 | And three years exactly since the James Webb Space Telescope was launched, |
0:21.9 | recording on Christmas Eve, 24. How are you? |
0:26.4 | Very well. Thank you. Thanks for having me. Good to see you again. |
0:29.4 | I want to take us back to two years ago when a paper came out called Panic, P-A-N-I-C, not P-A-N-E-K, panic at the disks, |
0:42.4 | it was a suggestion that galaxies of a disk variety formed extremely early in the universe, |
0:49.1 | much earlier than thought, and it was all thanks to the so-called James Webb Deepfield image. This set off a controversy, |
0:56.1 | which led to many things, including many papers that claim that the Big Bang never happened. |
1:00.8 | What was that story like? How did it resolve itself? Is it resolved to this day? Did the Big Bang |
1:05.9 | happen, Richard? Oh, yeah. I was there. It was something. One of the things about the James Watt |
1:12.5 | Telescope, or JWST, is that they wanted to test their theories about the early universe. |
1:20.9 | By they, I mean, people like you. I wanted to figure out whether they were getting |
1:25.0 | the early universe right. |
1:31.1 | And so the fact that there were these anomalies, like right out of the gate, |
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