JVL and Bill Kristol React to Hegseth & Trump’s Strange Speech to Generals
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🗓️ 30 September 2025
⏱️ 36 minutes
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For more of JVL's thoughts on this dark moment, check out today's Triad newsletter: https://www.thebulwark.com/p/its-a-war-from-within
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| 0:31.9 | flag officer corps of the United States military by the Secretary of Defense, not Secretary of War, requires an act |
| 0:39.2 | to Congress to change that no matter what he calls himself. |
| 0:41.2 | But I'm happy he has his pronouns and titles in ways that align with his identity and |
| 0:46.9 | the President of the United States. |
| 0:50.2 | Bill, so I want to start out here. |
| 0:52.3 | We're going to play a bunch of clips for people who mayn't have seen it. |
| 0:55.6 | I think you and I have sort of fundamentally different views. |
| 0:59.5 | I think this was as serious as a heart attack. |
| 1:03.5 | You, I think, think it was clownish. |
| 1:06.3 | I think, but these views are not intention, right? |
| 1:09.3 | They're reconcilable. |
| 1:12.6 | Yeah, the heart of Trumpism is that it's both, and of Trump is that he's both clownish and very dangerous. And so I think we probably |
| 1:16.9 | agree. I would, I mean, I wrote about this in, I guess, the last three morning shots. And so I've |
| 1:22.4 | been very alarmed about the upshot of this. And I'm slightly reassured in this respect, the senior officers, |
| 1:30.7 | the general flag officers, behaved in an exemplary way. I mean, they were stone-faced. They |
| 1:36.7 | did not rise to debate. Hakesheth and Trump both wanted applause, offered applause lines, invited |
| 1:43.2 | applause. Really, Hxseth paused very |
| 1:45.6 | conspicuously. Trump almost literally asked for it a couple of times. And they did not do that. |
| 1:50.3 | They stood as they always do when the president comes into the room and leaves. They gave him |
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