Justine Bateman, Duncan Crabtree-Ireland on AI contract language; Hollywood’s lean holiday box office
The Business
KCRW
4.5 • 699 Ratings
🗓️ 24 November 2023
⏱️ 29 minutes
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Summary
Kim Masters and Matt Belloni discuss what’s shaping up to be a lean holiday box office and what success for movies looks like — and how it’s perceived — when it comes to theatrical versus streaming releases.
Then, filmmaker and SAG-AFTRA generative AI advisor Justine Bateman joins to share her concerns over the union's new contract, while Chief Negotiator Duncan Crabtree-Ireland explains why it’s the best deal possible.
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| 0:00.0 | From KCRW, I'm Kim Masters, and this is the business. |
| 0:04.8 | As SAG AFTER members vote on the hard-fought deal, they're gild struck with the studios. |
| 0:09.6 | There is dissension in the ranks. |
| 0:11.5 | Union advisor Justine Bateman tells us about her AI concerns, |
| 0:15.1 | while SAG-After chief negotiator Duncan Crabtree Ireland says the union got the best deal possible. |
| 0:27.6 | I'm not trying to tell members that this deal is perfect. I'm not trying to tell members that they shouldn't be concerned about AI. Both of those things are correct. What I would say to members is this contract before this new deal had no protections for AI in it at all. |
| 0:34.6 | Blank page. Bateman wanted a deal that defines a performer as a human being. |
| 0:39.9 | Crab Tree Ireland says the guild will fight another day in just two and a half years. |
| 0:44.7 | But first we banter. |
| 0:46.1 | Stick around. |
| 0:46.7 | It's the business from KCRW. |
| 0:50.1 | I am joined by my buddy in banter. |
| 0:52.6 | Matt Bellany. |
| 0:53.2 | Hello, Matt. |
| 0:54.0 | Hi there. So, we are going into the holidays. Hollywood can celebrate the end of the strikes, assuming that Sagaftera approves the deal, but the box office has turned into a huge problem. Disney saw the marvels open to a very low number and then drop like a stone. Then the |
| 1:14.5 | Hunger Games came on to the field of play and flopped in China as a lot of things are flopping in |
| 1:19.4 | China, these big movies that Chinese audiences used to love. And that was the market that was |
| 1:24.3 | depended on for a lot of money. So we're looking at a pretty lean Christmas, |
| 1:29.5 | I think, for the studios, unless something suddenly pops out. Yeah, I mean, a lot is going against |
| 1:34.5 | the studios this holiday season because a number of movies were bumped out of this corridor |
| 1:39.6 | to next year, the Ghostbusters sequel, Dune, there were a couple others as well. And there's a lot of |
| 1:46.8 | question marks. I mean, we really don't have an all-audience surefire going to be a smash movie. |
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