Hi everyone, I'm Joanna.

And I'm Jenny.

And this is hyphenated, the podcast about living in the hyphen.

You know, Jenny, two weeks ago, I had the first audition I've had in a pretty long time.

And I killed it.

I was like, oh my God, this is the best audition I've ever done in my life, whatever.

And I was with one of my friends and she was like, oh my God, that means that you're going to get it.

And I was like, no, that's no, that's not at all what, what how that works.

But then I let her convince me that like since I did such a good audition like I must get I must get it like

that's just how it works and obviously I did not and I'm so jaded that it doesn't hurt like it no it's like a little

bit it stings a little bit but it doesn't hurt anymore.

Yeah, I mean, I think it depends.

There's been opportunities that have come my way.

They're not all acting related.

Some have been TV writing and stuff like that.

I guess I've been more confident in terms of some TV writing interviews where I'm like,

dude, I know the show like the back of my hand.

Like, I check all the boxes. I met with the showrunners. And then I don't get it. And then I cry.

Like, and then I'll spend like a full 24 hours feeling like ass. And then the next day, I go into like ADHD hyper drive mode, which is, you know, I'm like, fuck it. I'm going to, you know, take over the

world kind of shit. But with acting, yeah, I'm not, I'm more jaded like you. Acting especially,

there's really no telling because you could look like someone's ex-girlfriend and they're like,

fuck that bitch. I don't want her on my show because she looks like my

...