Welcome back to Hot Takes and Deep Dives and The New Yorker has called my next guest

The Best Cabaret artist of your generation. Out magazine called you a tornado of art and

activism. And you know, you've also been mentioned more than any other person by other guests on this show.

It's Justin Vivian Bond. Welcome.

Wow, that's very nice to hear.

I hope they said good things.

Well, I mean, you have been mentioned, it's true, I was thinking about it, and you have been

mentioned and referenced by on this show Sandra Bernhard Isaac Mizrahi and they all said nice things

a Vietnamese are you obviously your contemporaries but also I also know Daniel Nardichio very well and a big part of his entry into New York was the fact that you two were roommates.

Yes, we were best friends in San Francisco.

We've known each other for a very long time.

He was actually one of my first friends when I moved to San Francisco.

I worked at an art supply store with his roommate and he came in to pick her up one day and I was like oh my

God I love this guy immediately. And where I know that I if I'm remembering correctly from my

chat with him you live together in Williamsburg?

Yes, in the mid 90s, when there was like one Thai restaurant, one really rotten grocery

store, and I think like there were like three places you could go then it was and there was a cafe

It was like nothing it was it was really beautiful though because we lived right on the river is so nice

Just when we hopped on I was telling you how I've said because we lived right on the river. It's so nice.

Just when we hopped on, I was telling you

how I've seen you perform quite a number of times,

like over the years, and you're, right now,

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