I'm Dave Rubin and we've got a special Thursday roundtable extravaganza for you.

It's just like the Friday roundtable extravaganza's accepted on Thursday and joining me today

are the co-hosts of the upcoming brand new illusion of consensus podcast former Rubin

for our guests, Rav Arora and Dr. Jay Badacharia, Rav Jay. Good to see you guys.

Thanks for having us Dave. Yeah, it's great to be here. So if all goes well, the podcast will

debut next week and I wanted to give you guys a chance to do a little bit of what you're going

to be doing on the podcast, which is a lot of debunking of nonsense and the expert class.

So that's what we're going to be diving into today. I thought real quick before we do it and I've

got one ad. Maybe if each of you could just take 30 seconds or so, just kind of give me the

genesis of why you guys wanted to do this together and then we'll go from there. Dr. Jay,

why don't you go first? Well, for me, it's really fun to be able to talk with a bright young

journalist and because one of the key things I think that's gone on during the pandemic is you

had experts on high telling people this is the consensus when often it wasn't, often misleading

people creating this illusion and it's actually a young journalist like Rob and podcasters and

others, citizen scientists who pushed back effectively. So to me, to cooperate with Rob is really

quite an honor. Rob? Yeah, no, it's a thrill to collaborate with Jay on this. I think throughout

the pandemic, one thing that has become really clear is that there is this kind of illusion of

consensus, a hands-out title on a number of issues and how the nuances and the complexities of

various issues, whether it's masking, vaccines, mandates, lockdowns, et cetera, there's far more

nuance and far more diversity of opinion on those issues than one would seem to believe by just

judging the mainstream media where they select certain experts instead of others and so it becomes

sort of unquestionable or it becomes the sort of monolith that you can't question when given

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