Justin Richmond on You'll Hear It: "Still Crazy After All These Years" — Paul Simon

Broken Record with Rick Rubin, Malcolm Gladwell, Bruce Headlam and Justin Richmond

Pushkin Industries

Music, Society & Culture

4.5 • 4.2K Ratings

🗓️ 4 December 2025

⏱️ 101 minutes

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Justin joined You'll Hear It's Adam Maness and Peter Martin to talk Still Crazy After All These Years. Paul Simon's Grammy-winning album was born out of divorce, and produced some of his greatest songs of all time, like "50 Ways To Leave Your Lover," "My Little Town," and "I Do It For Your Love." They dive into the story behind this remarkable album, including Steve Gadd's famous drum beat and how Stevie Wonder's Innervisions may have been the catalyst for Paul Simon's divorce?! And, we ask: Is this the ultimate sad boy album? Find You'll Hear It wherever you get podcasts.

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0:49.7	Hey there, it's Justin Richmond. I joined my favorite music educators, Adam Manus and Peter Martin of Open Studio.
0:56.3	On their podcast, you'll hear it, to talk about Paul Simon's Still Crazy after all these years.
1:02.0	It was an album born out of divorce and produced ever so tenderly by Phil Ramon.
1:06.8	The songs and hits from that album, like 50 Ways to Leave Your Lover, I Do It for Your Love,
1:11.3	Still Crazy, Paul Simon's first collaboration with his wayward partner, Art Garfunkel,
1:16.1	on My Little Town, those songs are indelible.
1:19.2	We dive in the story behind those songs and this remarkable album,
1:22.6	including Steve Gads' famous drum part and how Stevie Wonder's inner visions may have been
1:26.8	the catalyst for Paul Simon's divorce, and thus this album. Plus, we ponder is this the ultimate sad boy album. Hey, Bob, do you like podcasts? Well, you know, with everything terrible in the world, actually, you don't have a mic, so. Adam, do you like podcasts? Oh, man, I love podcasts. In fact, I'm on a podcast right now.
1:45.0	Yes, I'm aware.
1:46.5	Do you ever listen to the Broken Record podcast? Yeah, that's one of my favorites with Justin Richmond. Yeah. So I asked him if you could join us on the show today. Oh, that's very excited. And he's going to be here in just a minute. Very thrilling. And speaking of broken records, I think you broke a few on this arrangement.
2:02.2	Yeah, most number of moo chords ever. Yeah, that sounds like something I do. Yeah. I'm I'm I'm
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