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For more, check out our 500 episode archive at UnmistakableCreative.com. Justin, welcome to The Unmistakable Creative. Thanks so much for taking the time to join us. I am happy to be here. Thanks for having me. Yeah. So I found out about you and your work by way of your publicists who told me about your book. It's what you make of it It is what you make of it, creating something great from what you've been given. And I think what intrigued

me most about your story was that you're this sort of multi-hyphenate person who's a pastor

musician and you do all these sort of things as well as being artists. But before we get into all

of that, given that you're a pastor, I wanted to start

by asking what religious or spiritual beliefs were you raised with and how did those end up

impacting the choices that you've made with your life and your career? Good question.

So I wasn't really raised with anything directly. My mother grew up Catholic and she had the dust of her religious practice around the house and, like, some of the artifacts.

But it wasn't, there wasn't any sort of regular religious training or conversation in her household.

It was a little bit shied away from. My dad was not

vehemently anti, but was not for it. That religion was for weak people, for weak-minded people

was a thing that you needed if you needed it. But up until the point you need it, then don't.

So it's fine for the folks, but you're strong, so don't.

So I wasn't, I wasn't really raised with it.

When I started my faith journey, I was like 17, 18 or so.

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