Welcome to the Psychology Podcast, where we give you insights into the mind, brain, behavior, and creativity.

I'm Dr. Scott Barry Kaufman,

and in each episode I have a conversation with a guest

who will stimulate your mind and give you a greater

understanding of yourself, others, and the world we live in. Hopefully we'll also provide a glimpse

into human possibility. Thanks for Lay Miller on the podcast. Dr. Lay Miller is a

research fellow at the Kinsey Institute and author of the book Tell Me What You Want, The Science of Sexual Desire

and how it can help you improve your sex life. Laid Miller is an award-winning educator having

been honored three times with the Certificate of Teaching Excellence from Harvard University, where he taught for several years.

He is also a prolific researcher and scholar who has published more than 40 pieces of academic writing to date,

including a textbook entitled The Psychology of Human Sexuality.

Hey thanks for chatting with me today Justin.

Hey thanks for having me Scott. What a topic this is is something we really haven't

represented as fully in the podcast and really trying to kind of expand the depths of humanity that we cover on this podcast and understanding of that.

Let's start with Freud because everything always starts with Freud, right?

And then we criticize it and then we say what he got wrong and then we say what the way

to science is.

So what had Freud had to say about sexual fantasy and desire?

Did he have anything to say on that topic? Freud had a lot to say about sex and a lot to say about fantasies too and his main conclusion was basically

that a happy person never fantasizes, only a dissatisfied one.

So Freud's view of sexual fantasies was really that

they're usually always a sign of deeper psychological troubles

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