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Marco, we've managed to set up our computers, even though the technology world is trying to foil us today.

It only took us 20 minutes.

I know. It's like coaching a grandparent or something.

We've got a cool story today.

Yeah, we have a really fantastic interview with a guy named Justin Cronpier.

He's a landscape photographer, adventurer, van lifer, some extent.

And I don't think he would call himself this, but I think he is somewhat of an influencer.

I think his Instagram certainly influences people.

Yeah, he knows how to tell a story online.

Let's put it that way.

Yeah, and actually, Fitz, you were the one who kind of brought up this idea in the first place

to track Justin down and get him on a mic, so I'm curious what sparked the idea to want to interview

him. Yeah, I can't remember how exactly I came to connect with Justin, but it was like kind of one of

those random wormholes that sometimes I will follow down on the internet. And it was like

comments and we traded some DMs and I don't know I just

kind of followed along on Justin's journey for a long time and I was you know that it's it's

wild because I think good stories they allow you to have empathy for somebody else's perspective

or somebody else's path through life.

And I think great stories allow you to not just have empathy or to kind of like walk in

someone else's shoes for a moment, but they make you think, what would I do?

Given those set of circumstances or those sets of situations, how would I have

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