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Clear+Vivid with Alan Alda

Justin Evans: Data Heroes

Clear+Vivid with Alan Alda

Bobi NYC

Science, Society & Culture, Comedy

4.83.5K Ratings

🗓️ 28 October 2025

⏱️ 38 minutes

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Summary

Data: dry and boring, right? Not in the hands of Justin Evans, a data expert himself, who set out to show that data is not only the lifeblood of today’s world; it is also the source of moving stories of other data experts who have achieved remarkable things – like the epidemiologist whose inspired use of data in the early days of Covid helped save hundreds of thousands of lives in New York city alone.

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0:00.0

I'm Alan Alder, and this is clear and vivid conversations about connecting and communicating.

0:16.0

It's funny to make data an emotional topic, and I was not expecting, actually, to have this emotional response to meeting these folks, some of whom I regard is really quite heroic.

0:30.4

On the villain side, I had several encounters with Facebook executives who were showing a complete disregard for the ethics

0:41.7

of data, including one case where an executive crossed his fingers and said, I hope Mark Zuckerberg

0:46.9

can get away with pulling the wool over everyone's eyes and getting away with these privacy

0:51.4

violations.

0:53.3

That's Justin Evans, who's written a book called The Little Book of Data,

0:57.4

with a generously long subtitle,

1:00.6

Understanding the Powerful Analytics that Fuel AI,

1:04.6

Make or Break Careers, and Could Just End Up Saving the World.

1:09.7

Yes, it actually is all that.

1:12.3

And making it a fun conversation dedicated to connecting and communicating

1:16.2

is Justin's telling of the stories of data scientists whose work has moved him,

1:22.1

sometimes to tears.

1:26.6

So, Justin, I love first sentences and books, and yours is a beaut.

1:33.9

You say, is it weird that I cried so much writing a book about data?

1:38.8

I thought that would be a grabber.

1:40.5

It grabbed me.

1:42.6

People think about the topic of data and expected to be dry and esoteric and complicated,

1:49.0

and I wanted to show my vulnerability and my emotional side right off the bat.

1:54.0

You know, the framing of the book is, having worked in data for 20 years, I wanted to codify the, call it the 1020 core ideas that I had learned about data,

2:06.6

and I wanted to communicate those core ideas to the non-expert. And in doing that, I knew that it would be

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