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Pop Pantheon

JUSTIN BIEBER (with Pitchfork Contributing Editor Rawiya Kameir)

Pop Pantheon

DJ Louie XIV

Music Commentary, Music, Pop Culture, Pop, Pop Music

4.7630 Ratings

🗓️ 23 September 2021

⏱️ 94 minutes

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Summary

Pitchfork Contributing Editor and Asst. Professor at Syracuse University Rawiya Kameir and DJ Louie get into it about one of contemporary pop’s most divisive figures, Justin Bieber. Louie and Rawiya discuss pop’s evolution beyond the need for male pop stars in the late ‘00s and how Bieber entered to fill the void, initially as one of the first music superstars to emerge on YouTube, and later as a certified hitmaker. They then dive into what makes the Beliebers perhaps the definitive Standom of the internet era, the numerous ways Bieber attempted to pivot to credible adult star in the first part of ‘10s, the implicit racial dynamics in his passion for R&B music as well as attempts by the powers that be to moderate that, how he became the most loathed celebrity on earth before mounting a massive comeback with his 3rd album Purpose, his ongoing knotty relationship to fame and latest incarnation as a chilled-out, proudly devout Wife Guy. Finally, Louie and Rawiya have a thorny debate about where Bieber belongs in the official Pop Pantheon.

Check out Louie's Playlist of Bieber Essentials on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/playlist/5Gx2Fa46woFqHkJ0LTqiPY?si=5036fcedb6b74a57

Join the Pop Pantheon Bieber Discord Chat w/ DJ Louie on 9/23 at 9PM ET / 6PM PT!: https://discord.gg/xqVe5bsE

Read Rawiya's Review of Justice on Pitchfork: https://pitchfork.com/reviews/albums/justin-bieber-justice/

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0:00.0

Welcome to Pop Pantheon, the podcast where we completely overanalyze the music, legacy, and cultural impact of all your favorite pop stars.

0:19.3

I'm your host, DJ Louis X. Louisth, and I'm a DJ, writer,

0:23.1

and all-around pop music fanatic. I've spent my entire life and career thinking about,

0:27.8

dissecting, and being obsessed with pop stars. Their music, their legacies, how they relate to one

0:33.1

another, to the larger pop musical landscape, and to culture more broadly. What separates an icon from a mere superstar?

0:39.8

Why does some careers become the soundtrack to our lives, and why do others flop?

0:44.7

Whose work in legacy transcends time and whose feel stuck in it?

0:48.4

Every episode of Pop Pantheon, we'll devote an entire episode to a pop icon,

0:53.0

from Titans of the Genre like Beyonce and all the

0:55.3

way down to lesser Titans, like Nicole Scherzinger. Each episode, you'll hear a little breakdown from

1:02.5

me, and then some distinguished guests and I will chop it up about their careers, discographies,

1:07.5

public personas, live performances, music videos, feuds, tweets, you name it.

1:12.5

And at the end, we'll turn pop into fantasy football, make our final judgment, and place them

1:17.7

in the official Pop Pantheon.

1:20.3

What is up, everybody?

1:22.2

This is DJ Louis.

1:23.6

Welcome back to Pop Pantheon.

1:25.5

So, so glad you're here.

1:42.4

I want to start off by saying such a big thank you to everybody who came to the Pop Pantheon Lord inaugural Discord chat two weeks ago after the episode.

1:44.9

God, that was so much fun.

2:00.9

We chatted for like an hour and a half about Lord, about Haley Steinfeld, about, we made a joint playlist of all of our favorite songs from the last 10 years that we felt like could have been Britney songs.

2:01.8

I don't know.

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