Justice Matters One on One with John Fugelsang Part 2

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🗓️ 6 October 2025

⏱️ 23 minutes

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Glenn continues his talk with comedian, actor and biblical scholar John Fugelsang who has published a remarkable book that will make you learn and laugh all at the same time. His book, "Separation of Church and Hate - A Sane Person's Guide to Taking Back the Bible from Fundamentalists, Fascists, and Flock-Fleecing Frauds" has spent multiple weeks on the New York Times best sellers list.

John Fugelsang has been murdered on CSI and picketed by the Westborough Baptist Church. He's a Drama League-nominated actor, comedian, and broadcaster who hosted many TV shows and podcasts, including the acclaimed, "Tell Me Everything" series on SiriusXM Progress. He's gotten George Harrison to give his final performance on VH1, debated Jerry Falwell Sr. and David Duke, and made many appearances across all cable news networks. His epic PBS Road trip film on the American Dream, "Dream On", directed by Roger Weisberg, was named Best Documentary at the New York City Independent Film Festival. John lives in New York City with his family.

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0:00.0	It's time for Justice Matters one-on-one with former federal prosecutor and legal analyst Glenn Kershner.
0:15.5	Today, Glenn continues his conversation with Sirius XM progress host John Fuglesang.
0:21.4	That's coming up next on Justice Matters one-on-one.
0:28.2	Hey, I'm John Fuglesang.
0:29.9	Do you ever watch these Christian nationalists and right-wing fundamentalists on TV and think,
0:35.3	Jesus Christ, these people are the opposite of Jesus Christ.
0:39.1	You know, Christianity was supposed to be about love and service, but millions of Americans
0:43.1	have grown up to find their nice religions been hijacked by this mean authoritarian, tax-free
0:48.7	click. I wrote a book about how these right-wingers aren't actually on the side of Jesus,
0:53.2	and historically, they never have been. Separation of church and hate, a sane person's guide to taking back the Bible from fundamentalist, fascists, and flock-pleasing frauds. It's a very irreverent and biblically correct book for believers, atheists, agnostics, and anybody who's ever going to have to deal with a Christian extremist in your family, workplace, or government.
1:11.7	On all the issues that divide us, using actual verses from that book they claim to follow,
1:16.6	they've got a First Amendment right to twist the Bible to their liking.
1:19.7	You've got a First Amendment right to call them out for it, and you'll be surprised at how good it feels.
1:31.2	So, how good it feels. So let me ask you this, because it's in the news presently, where in the Bible do we find
1:35.9	the rapture?
1:37.0	I'm glad you asked.
1:38.2	You find the rapture nowhere.
1:40.9	The word does not appear in the Bible.
1:43.1	And I had an entire chapter on the rapture,
1:45.7	and we had to cut it for space, believe it or not. But it's a topic that fascinates me because
1:50.5	cutting your rapture for space sounds a little, that's an interesting choice, right?
1:55.9	Well, I thought feminism and LGBTQ issues were more important. But I mean, it doesn't appear anywhere in the Bible. The actual term
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