Justice Has Left the Building

Runaway Country with Alex Wagner

Crooked Media

Politics, Government, Society & Culture, News

4.8 • 12.8K Ratings

🗓️ 23 October 2025

⏱️ 69 minutes

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Summary

Alex digs into the destruction of due process and rule of law under the Trump administration. First, she hears from Judge Anam Petit, a recently fired immigration judge who explains how the legal system is being quietly dismantled to prioritize deportations. Then, Alex speaks to Andrew Weissmann, former lead prosecutor in Robert Mueller’s Special Counsel’s Office, about whether our system is forever changed, and what it’s like to be in President Trump’s crosshairs. Subscribe to Runaway Country on Youtube, and if you have a story to share, send us an email or 1-minute voice note at [email protected]. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See https://pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

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0:00.0	Hi everyone.
0:01.7	Welcome to my new show, Runaway Country.
0:04.8	We are less than a year into the Trump administration, and I don't know about you, but I barely recognize this place.
0:12.0	National Guard troops are invading blue cities.
0:15.1	Citizens are being snatched off the street.
0:17.1	And the east wing of the White House is being ripped off and turned into apparently
0:21.5	a corporate event space. What the hell is happening here? Everything is unfolding at such a
0:27.3	rapid clip that it all just bleeds in together into one extended chaotic moment and one that
0:33.8	you might actually become a little numb to. And when you hear the same voices weigh in on all of this,
0:39.8	and when the cycle of outrage is never ending,
0:43.0	well, then we miss what's really going on.
0:45.8	This show is about shaking that up.
0:48.7	I'm Alex Wagner.
0:50.1	I am a Pod Save America contributor
0:52.0	and a senior political analyst at MS Now.
0:55.9	And on this show, I'm going to bring you voices you don't often hear from.
0:59.1	People whose experiences at the center of these headlines will offer you a way to shake off that numbness.
1:06.0	And to better understand the seemingly incomprehensible moment we all happen to be living through.
1:12.3	And then we're going to pair that storytelling with analysis from some of the smartest people
1:16.8	I know in order to put it all in context. All of this so that we can keep this country within our
1:24.8	grasp. This week, we wanted to start with a minor development, President Trump's
1:30.7	full-blown assault on the Department of Justice and the crumbling authority of rule of law.
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