Hello, friends. I'm Jackie Jean, and I make a really fun podcast about superstitions. I know, I know,

you're thinking black cats and walking on your ladders, but this is a little different.

I don't talk about anything that causes bad luck. I only talk about the things that make us

lucky. It's an edutating look at lucky symbols and omens that your kids will love too.

Lucky Charmed Unplugged is all about bringing luck into our lives.

Having a bad day, a bad week, come by, and I'll tell you all about how you can get lucky.

True Consequences is a true crime and mystery podcast with stories

based in New Mexico and the American Desert Southwest. I'm your host, Eric Carter Bondine.

Hey, everybody. This is Eric Carter Londine. And I am just so grateful right now for all of you

who have supported me throughout the last couple years.

It's hard to believe that we're coming up on two years now of true consequences.

I want to say thank you.

Before we get into today's episode, I need to say thanks to a bunch of people that I have neglected thinking.

I need to thank Scott, Vanessa G.C. Pam E. Stevie Lee. Mac.

Lab Mom. Rose. Amanda. Melissa. Rachel. Ellie. McKenzie. So many people have bought coffees for me at K-O-F-I-Slas True Consequences.

I am so, so very grateful for you.

I need to say thank you to Tanya Shadal, Carla Benavides, Katie Silva, Garcia, Brittany McDaniel, Lucy Farr.

All of you are patrons, new patrons. Thank you so much. I appreciate

you and everything that you have done to contribute to this show, staying live, staying on the air.

Without you, this wouldn't be possible. So thank you very much.

Today's episode is a very difficult one.

I drove down to Clovis, New Mexico, to meet with Miss Francis Williams, who is the mom of Chiquaya Williams.

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