In courtrooms across the country, the martial art legal accountability continues.

In Washington, DC, a federal judge finds Rudy Giuliani liable for defamation.

In Georgia, Donald Trump faces a reigning next week, Mark Meadows testified for the first

time in New York, the Attorney General accuses Donald Trump of inflating his network by

more than $2 billion dollars.

All the while, prosecutors push ahead for early trials on many of the 91 felony counts.

The former president faces welcome to the latest episode of the Trump Trials, a bulwark

podcast that we are doing in conjunction with our partners from law fair.

We are joined today by Ben Wittis, editor in chief of law fair and senior fellow in

government studies at the Brookings Institution and Annabauer, legal, fellow and courts

correspondence at law fair.

Thanks for joining me.

Appreciate it very much.

Hey, Charlie.

Thanks for having me.

We have to start with Rudy, rather extraordinary moment.

Federal judge ruled yesterday that America's former mayor is legally liable for defaming

two Georgia election workers who are the subject of all these conspiracy theories about how

they handle ballots while working for the Fulton County Board of Elections during the

2020 election.

Let's play a little montage of this that we put together.

This is Rudy Giuliani, then the former president of the United States, also defaming them,

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