4.8 • 40.8K Ratings
🗓️ 7 May 2021
⏱️ 47 minutes
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An immunity deal becomes a major development in the disappearance of Joyce Yost. Hosts Amy Donaldson and Sheryl Worsley talk with Davis County Attorney Troy Rawlings about when it is and when it isn't a good idea to promise immunity. Doug Lovell got out of prison early thanks to the Utah Board of Pardons and Parole. The ladies also speak with former Board of Pardons chair Mike Sibbits about deciding to let inmates out early.
Talking Cold is honest and frank conversations about the issues brought forward in the latest episode of the Cold podcast. We begin with Cold season 2: Justice for Joyce. Three ladies, Amy Donaldson, Ann Dent and Sheryl Worsley will talk about weighty issues like sexual assault, the death penalty and failures of the criminal justice system. The goal is more conversation and more understanding.
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0:00.0 | This podcast includes discussions of rape, sexual assault, and other violent crimes, including murder. |
0:06.7 | Listener discretion is advised. You should also know that help is available 24-7 if you are |
0:12.7 | someone close to you has experienced rape or any other form of sexual abuse. In the United States, |
0:18.8 | you can go to rain.org. That's the Rape Abuse Incest National Network website |
0:24.2 | at raI-I-N.org. You can also call 800-656-5-6-Hope to connect with free resources. No one needs |
0:34.7 | suffer in silence. You are not alone. |
0:39.0 | Hi, I'm Amy Donaldson. And I'm Cheryl Worsley, and this is Talking Cold. |
0:45.7 | Today, we're going to talk immunity. |
0:48.0 | Yeah, I mean, I'm really looking forward to this because I have this idea of immunity in my head that I got from television shows and |
0:54.9 | movies. That immunity is something that police use as a detective tool all the time, right? They |
0:59.8 | promise this to people and they can revoke it. So I really wanted to bring in an expert today |
1:05.0 | to answer our questions about what is immunity? How often is it used? And is it an investigative |
1:09.7 | tool? It was kind of the biggest thing in episode six. So we brought in Troy Rawlings, who is the Davis County attorney to talk about immunity deals. |
1:18.1 | And for those of you who are unfamiliar with the legal system, the county attorney is basically responsible for what gets prosecuted and how it gets prosecuted in the county. |
1:25.9 | Like a district attorney. |
1:27.1 | Exactly. This episode district attorney. Exactly. |
1:29.7 | This episode deals with a great big honker of an immunity deal in Rhonda Butters. |
1:37.1 | And I want to play a clip from the episode. |
1:40.4 | And then we'll get your reaction to some of our questions, Troy. |
1:44.8 | Terry Carpenter had knocked the frost off the cold case of Joyce Yost's disappearance. |
1:51.3 | He took his breakthrough to the Weber County attorney the day after his meeting with Rhonda Butters. |
1:57.3 | They're excited. They're finally willing to say, we've got enough evidence now to go forward, but they still have to prove it. |
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