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🗓️ 18 June 2021
⏱️ 52 minutes
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Life on death row is something we don't hear much about. Our guest is former Utah State prison warden Ken Shulsen. He worked almost every job at the prison including overseeing several high-profile executions. He was once taken hostage in a prison riot. Amy and Sheryl also talk big moments from Episode 12 and Cold host Dave Cawley responds to a voicemail question.
Talking Cold is honest and frank conversations about the issues brought forward in the latest episode of the Cold podcast. We begin with Cold season 2: Justice for Joyce. Three ladies, Amy Donaldson, Ann Dent and Sheryl Worsley will talk about weighty issues like sexual assault, the death penalty and failures of the criminal justice system. The goal is more conversation and more understanding.
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0:00.0 | This podcast includes discussions of rape, sexual assault, and other violent crimes, including murder. |
0:06.7 | Listener discretion is advised. You should also know that help is available 24-7 if you are |
0:12.7 | someone close to you has experienced rape or any other form of sexual abuse. In the United States, |
0:18.8 | you can go to rain.org. That's the Rape Abuse Incest National Network website |
0:24.1 | at R-A-I-N dot org. You can also call 800-656-5-6-Hope to connect with free resources. No one |
0:34.3 | needs suffer in silence. You are not alone. |
0:38.5 | Hi, I'm Amy Donaldson. And I'm Cheryl Worsley, and this is Talking Cold. |
0:46.5 | This is the podcast where we dive into the issues raised by the Cold Podcast, so now is the moment for the spoiler alert. |
0:53.2 | If you haven't listened to the last episode, |
0:55.1 | episode 12 of cold, you need to go to Amazon.com slash cold podcast. Give it a listen and come right |
1:01.2 | back to us. I'm really excited about today's episode. We're going to talk with former Utah State |
1:06.4 | prison warden Ken Shulson. He's actually worn a lot of other hats out there at the prison, |
1:11.4 | and he's going to give us an inside look into what prison life is like, both for officers and |
1:15.8 | inmates. |
1:21.1 | So, Ken, welcome to our torture chamber, which we also call a studio. |
1:25.9 | Thank you. |
1:27.1 | Why don't we start with you just introducing yourself and how did you get into working |
1:31.7 | corrections? |
1:32.6 | Well, I grew up in the Salt Lake area, Bingham Canyon and West Jordan. |
1:37.5 | And when I started there, my wife and I were living in California and I had an opportunity |
1:42.8 | to return to the University of Utah and finish a degree. |
1:46.5 | But I wasn't a fan of my daughter being raised in daycare, so I knew I had to work. |
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