4.8 • 40.8K Ratings
🗓️ 11 June 2021
⏱️ 48 minutes
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A man who defended Doug Lovell in court has a few things to say about what went down. Hosts Ann Dent and Sheryl Worsley spoke with defense attorney Mike Bouwhuis. Cold Host Dave Cawley joins the show for big moments.
Talking Cold is honest and frank conversations about the issues brought forward in the latest episode of the Cold podcast. We begin with Cold season 2: Justice for Joyce. Three ladies, Amy Donaldson, Ann Dent and Sheryl Worsley will talk about weighty issues like sexual assault, the death penalty and failures of the criminal justice system. The goal is more conversation and more understanding.
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0:00.0 | This podcast includes discussions of rape, sexual assault, and other violent crimes, including murder. |
0:06.7 | Listener discretion is advised. You should also know that help is available 24-7 if you are |
0:12.7 | someone close to you has experienced rape or any other form of sexual abuse. In the United States, |
0:18.8 | you can go to rain.org. That's the Rape Abuse Incest National Network website |
0:24.1 | at raI-I-N.org. You can also call 800-656-5-6-Hope to connect with free resources. No one |
0:34.3 | needs suffer in silence. You are not alone. |
0:38.3 | Hi, I'm Ann Dent. And I'm Cheryl Worsley, and this is Talking Cold. |
0:46.5 | This is the podcast where we dive into the issues brought up on the Cold Podcast, |
0:51.6 | so if you have not listened to the latest episode of the cold |
0:54.8 | podcast, you need to go to Amazon.com slash cold podcast. Listen there and come right back to us. |
1:01.4 | Our guest today is Mike Bowis, one of the defense attorneys featured in episode 11 as Doug's |
1:09.6 | defense attorney. |
1:15.8 | Thank you for joining us today. |
1:20.8 | I just want to start out with a little bit of a reminder to the listener. |
1:24.6 | There may be questions that we have that Mike can't answer, |
1:27.2 | and that's not because he's being evasive or rude. |
1:31.0 | It's because of something called attorney-client privilege. |
1:33.7 | So, Mike, we may ask you a question. |
1:36.9 | If you are unable to answer, you're going to tell us. |
1:38.1 | I am, yes. |
1:42.9 | What was your first impressions of Doug Leville, and how did you hear about him? |
1:50.1 | Interesting question. I may have talked to Dave about this a week or so ago. I first saw Doug Lovell when he was testifying during his sentencing hearing in 1993. I had just graduated |
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