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Small Town Dicks

Justice for Carla, Part 1

Small Town Dicks

Audio 99

True Crime, Paul Holes, History, Small Town, Yeardley Smith, Society & Culture, Police

4.79.4K Ratings

🗓️ 18 April 2025

⏱️ 53 minutes

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Summary

In part one of this two-part case, our very own Paul Holes explains how a cold case from 1974 landed on his desk. Seventeen-year-old Carla Walker was brutally murdered on her way to a dance, and suspicion quickly fell on her boyfriend as his story kept changing. But when Paul conducts a revealing interview, the investigation takes a shocking turn. Could the real killer have been overlooked for decades? Who killed Carla Walker?

Paul Holes is a bestselling author, podcaster, television host and retired cold-case investigator with the sheriff’s and district attorney’s offices in California’s Contra Costa County. During his 27 years as an investigator, Holes used his behavioral and forensic expertise in such notable cases as the Zodiac murders, Golden State Killer, and Jaycee Dugard kidnapping. In May 2022, Holes published Unmasked: My Life Solving America’s Cold Cases – which became an instant New York Times bestseller. Paul teamed with the FBI and Sacramento DA to help identify Joseph DeAngelo as the Golden State Killer, the most prolific serial predator in U.S. history. In 2019, he teamed up with Oxygen to host ”The DNA of Murder with Paul Holes” and in November he’s launching a new original series with HLN called, ”Real Life Nightmare with Paul Holes.”

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0:00.0

Hey, Smalltown fam, it's Yardley.

0:04.5

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0:11.5

and our community forum and other behind-the-scenes goodies, you got to go to smalltowndicks.com

0:18.2

slash superfam, and then in the top right hand corner hit that little tab that says

0:25.9

join and then listen to the end of today's episode for a sneak peek at today's new bonus episode

0:33.8

hey small town fam it it's Yardley. How are you guys? Oh, welcome to season 16.

0:45.4

Hooray! We're so happy you're here. And it's your lucky day, my friends, because we have our own

0:52.7

Paul Holes on the microphone today. I don't know if anyone's

0:56.8

better than Paul at combining suspense and science whenever he talks about an investigation,

1:03.5

and this case is no exception. The case Paul talks about today really got under his skin,

1:11.6

and if you know the kinds of cases Paul has worked on over the years,

1:15.8

you know that's saying a lot.

1:18.6

At a couple of points in the story, you'll hear dead silence,

1:23.2

as Paul stops and gathers himself before he can go on.

1:28.4

As always, Paul brings fresh eyes and fresh ideas to the table

1:33.3

as law enforcement reopens the 1974 murderer of Carla Walker.

1:39.4

Paul's enthusiasm inspires the investigative team

1:42.5

to pull out all the stops to get answers.

1:46.2

And that out-of-the-box approach is instrumental in finally clearing the name of a man

1:52.8

who'd been under suspicion for decades while also giving some long overdue answers to Carla's

2:00.2

family.

2:03.0

But let's start at the beginning.

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