Justice | Chapter 10

Three

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Society & Culture, Documentary, True Crime

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🗓️ 8 May 2025

⏱️ 39 minutes

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Summary

After decades of secrecy, the truth is finally on trial. In a stunning turn, Judge Kubota orders the release of long-hidden evidence, shaking the very foundation of the case against Ian and Shawn Schweitzer. But as the Hawai’i Innocence Project prepares to expose the full scope of this wrongful conviction, the prosecution fights back—taking their battle to the state’s highest court in a desperate attempt to keep the past buried.

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0:00.0	Judge Kubota's decision to have Hawaii PD release the information they have about Albert Laurel Jr. is a polarizing one.
0:11.3	This is great news for the Hawaii Innocence Project and for Ian and Sean.
0:17.3	Hawaii PD, however, aren't exactly thrilled that Judge Kubota has made this decision.
0:23.6	They want to take this issue all the way up to Hawaii's Supreme Court with the goal of blocking the judge from sharing anything about their investigation into the murder of Dana Ireland.
0:34.9	According to an article reported by Lynn Kiwanano for Hawaii News Now, the reason that the
0:40.6	prosecutor's office is requesting this information remain private is because, quote, any premature
0:46.8	disclosure of these records would absolutely jeopardize and or completely upend this investigation.
0:57.4	They say that they aren't necessarily against the Hawaii Innocence Project having the information, but they want to make it so they aren't able
1:02.5	to share any of the information publicly, which is why they're appealing to the Hawaii Supreme Court.
1:09.0	Because not only does Judge Kubota decide that Hawaii
1:12.3	PD needs to turn over the evidence, but he also doesn't believe the Hawaii Innocence Project
1:17.6	needs to keep whatever information they get private. The public deserves the visibility. During his hearing,
1:26.2	Judge Kubota questioned Elizabeth Britt Bailey, who is the
1:29.7	Deputy Corporation Council of Hawaii County, wanting to better understand exactly what is going
1:36.1	on behind the scenes with the Hawaii PD. What is their goal? Albert Laurel Jr. is dead. What possible ongoing investigation is there? It seems
1:48.3	like Hawaii County's goal is to delay Ian and Sean's civil case, which would finally
1:53.7	accomplish what they have now spent years trying to prove. Factual innocence. And with that, they would receive compensation from the state that they
2:03.7	rightfully deserve. Judge Kubota says during the hearing, quote, these guys were convicted
2:10.5	23 years ago, and they're seeking a determination of actual innocence. And in my view, justice delayed at your behest is justice denied.
2:22.1	I'm Amanda Knox, and this is three.
2:25.5	Thank you. Chapter 10, Justice
2:48.0	When Shannon Kigawa stands in front of the Hawaii Supreme Court, she makes it clear that Ian and Sean Schweitzer are still considered suspects.
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