Where my grandmother was, it was beautiful, but it was bright light, lovely, but it wasn't, it certainly wasn't the top area that was it was in heaven.

It was, but you were close.

It is, I'm working towards that.

I'm learning more spiritually.

This is touched by heaven.

Everyday encounters with God,

those moments when heaven and earth collide and we see God.

We see his hand reaching out to us,

attempting to get our attention,

inviting us into a closer relationship.

Here we share stories of encounter with angels, divine intervention, prophetic dreams, visions, near-death experiences, big little God incidents.

I'm your host, Trapper Jack.

Welcome, episode 142, just below heaven.

Where's that? That in- in between place between heaven and hell

purgatory oh then someone says there's no purgatory there's nothing in the bible that says

purgatory true yeah and someone else says yeah well look what it says in second maccabes though

it says that we need to pray for those who have died but are in need of our prayers.

And then someone says, Second Maccabees, I don't have second.

There's no Second Maccabees in my Bible.

Okay, what's in your Bible?

What's in my Bible?

Well, what about Revelation?

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