This is an I-Heart podcast.

Guaranteed human.

So I-Hard launched this weekend.

And I want to discuss that a little bit because things on paper are different than things in reality.

So in my history, I've had private relationships.

I had a full over a year relationship with someone that was very serious while I was on the Housewives when I came back.

This person was very, wanted to be very

private. And some stuff came out about them just as a result, because if you see us on the

beach, someone's going to say who someone is. And no matter what, inevitably, somebody's going to

come out. Now, people like Ryan Gosling and Ava Mendez or Harrison Ford and Callista Flockhart or Kim Kardashian

and the guy she's with now, the race car driver, she's not saying anything. Like the

paparazzi is getting pictures and a story is being told. She's not saying anything. And she who has

had Reggie Bush on her show,

Kanye and her show, Pete Davidson on her show, she's definitely going through that discussion in her

mind as well about what to share. Chris Jenner's had Corey on the show. There are so many different

iterations of this. Kristen Cavalary did a show with

Jay Cutler. Then she dated the younger guy and kind of discussed it. Like, you go through these waves,

Tori and Dean, like you go through these waves of what you're going to discuss and not. Look at Courtney

and Travis. Like they were so public about affection because they're in love

and they want to show people machine gun, Kelly and Megan. And then something happened and then that

went wrong, like, because people bring you in and then they can't just spit you out when it goes

down. So J-Lo and Ben brought everybody in. Like, he didn't really, but she did. She kind of

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