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This Jungian Life Podcast

Jung & Freud: From “Bro” to Broken

This Jungian Life Podcast

Joseph Lee, Deborah Stewart, Lisa Marchiano

Jungian, Mental Health, Health & Fitness, Psychology, Dreams, Jung, Relationships, Selfhelp, Society & Culture, Psychoanalysis

4.81.7K Ratings

🗓️ 1 April 2022

⏱️ 42 minutes

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Summary

We welcome Jungian colleague, psychiatrist, and historian Dr. Bert Price, whose research in Vienna during a 2019 international conference led to the discovery of new facts regarding the famous friendship—and break-up—of Jung and Freud. Following lively correspondence, the two men met in Vienna and talked for 13 hours. They continued over the next three days, and after attending the Wednesday night meeting of Freud’s Vienna circle, took a “spirited” walk to a tattoo parlor, stirred by the mythic significance of “marking" their newfound bond. 

The tattoo artist, Stefan Otto, was an Austrian sailor who had learned Chinese ink techniques while recovering from wounds in Tientsin (Tianjin), port city of Peking (Beijing), after the Boxer Rebellion. When Otto returned to Vienna, he was one of several tattoo artists in the Brigittenau District, home to an Austro-Hungarian naval river flotilla. Dr. Price discovered Otto’s tattoo catalogue while visiting the Heeresgeschichtiliches Museum, and saw it contained images of dragons remarkably like those in Jung’s later Red Book. Further examination of Otto’s log book (then a legal requirement) recorded a visit on March 6, 1907 by Herr Professor-Artz S. Freud and Dr. C.G. Jung. Both received "Kleine Drachenn Tatowwierung" (Small Dragon Tattoo). Dr. Price shares details of his important finding, providing new depth and understanding of the historic relationship between Jung and Freud.

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1:08.5

Welcome to this Jungian life.

1:10.9

Three good friends and Jungian analysts, Lisa Marchiano, Deborah Stewart, and Joseph Lee,

1:16.4

invite you to join them for an intimate and honest conversation

1:19.9

that brings a psychological perspective to important issues of the day.

1:26.1

I'm Lisa Marchiano, and I'm a Jungian analyst in Philadelphia. I'm Joseph Lee,

1:31.5

and I'm a Jungian analyst in Virginia Beach, Virginia. I'm Deborah Stewart, a Jungian analyst,

1:37.8

on Cape Cod.

1:47.0

Today we have a special episode. We're going to be interviewing Dr. Bert Price, who is a young young analyst, scholar, and a psychiatrist,

1:54.0

and he has been researching some little known personal information about the relationship between Jung and Freud.

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