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Simon Calder's Independent Travel Podcast

June 9th - Remote medicine training

Simon Calder's Independent Travel Podcast

The Independent

Places & Travel, Leisure, Society & Culture

3.6628 Ratings

🗓️ 9 June 2025

⏱️ 6 minutes

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Summary

I'm talking to Lloyd Figgins of Travel Risk & Incident Prevention about a course designed for adventurers.


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0:00.0

Hello and welcome to today's independent travel podcast with me Simon Calder. It's Monday the night of June.

0:06.9

One of the most intriguing assignments I've enjoyed while at the Independent was a course on advanced medicine for remote foreign travel.

0:17.8

This was back in the 1990s, but I remember it well. The idea is simply that all kinds of

0:25.7

issues from fractured bones to stomach problems that would be quite easily managed if you were

0:33.2

in a modern location with plenty of good medical care, but which, if you're in the mountains,

0:40.6

in the desert, in the jungle, provide all kinds of problems. And the idea that non-specialists

0:48.9

can be taught, basic procedures for helping to manage casualties, has been picked up in the 21st century by

0:59.1

Lloyd Figgins of travel risk and incident prevention. He's been telling me about the course.

1:07.9

Think about remote wilderness medicine. So often we go to environments where there are

1:13.7

medical facilities nearby, there's a good ambulance service, but when we get a little bit further

1:18.1

off the beaten track, where we're talking about some of the more remote locations that we want to go,

1:23.7

we want to go and explore, but you're not going to have the medical services that are

1:28.1

going to be at hand. An ambulance is not going to arrive in 11 minutes. It might not arrive in 11 hours.

1:33.9

So therefore, this course has been developed specifically with doctors, with paramedics,

1:38.6

in order to provide pre-hospital care in a remote environment until the cavalry can come over the hill.

1:46.0

So it equips people with the skills of first aid, but it takes it that little bit further about how to protect a casualty,

1:53.0

either from the elements, and actually treat them in that first instance until professionals can arrive.

1:59.0

A bit like a sort of first aid course with some attitude.

2:03.0

You could call it that.

2:04.4

And when we designed it specifically to make sure that everything in medicine is about

2:08.9

handover.

2:09.5

So even if you were to fall sick in your hometown in the UK, the first people who might

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