June 9, 2019 — Jan C. Harzan with Mark Jackson

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🗓️ 9 June 2019

⏱️ 159 minutes

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Summary

Gene is joined by special guest host Mark Jackson as we present MUFON’s Executive Director, Jan C. Harzan. This wide-ranging discussion focuses on possible UFO disclosure, whether it’s already in progress, the recent controversy over the credentials of alleged government whistleblower Luis Elizondo, the future of UFO research, advanced propulsion systems and other fascinating topics. There will also be a brief segment about Jan’s friendship with the late Santon T. Friedman. Jan is a 37-year veteran at IBM, and holds a B.S. in Nuclear Engineering. He has headed MUFON since 2013.

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0:00.0	You're in the Paracast. You're in the Paracast, the gold standard of paranormal radio.
0:27.9	And now, here's Gene Steinberg.
0:32.3	So we had a fascinating episode last week on the Paracast,
0:35.7	the one and only the eerie pressible Don
0:38.0	Eckers was here. In fact, our co-host this week, Mark Jackson, had some interactions with
0:44.0	Don in our forums. And what was that about? Well, as Don went through his reasoning for
0:52.4	what I'm just sort of, I'd roughly described to him and based
0:56.8	on what he had told our audience is a sort of cyclical civilization that we have. And he was
1:03.3	sort of laying out a unified theory of how you could fold in, you know, UAPs with potentially remnant civilizations, et cetera,
1:14.8	from post-cataclysms in the cyclical nature of cataclysm.
1:19.1	So what I tried to help Don do was realize the first part is that I wanted to establish,
1:24.4	yes, what he was describing in terms of this cyclical demise of all species
1:30.4	on Earth, for that matter, not just humans, is a valid thing, at least scientifically.
1:34.4	We know this through geologic and astrological, you know, data, records, and the like.
1:40.9	He went out in a branch in terms of speculation, and I kind of led him over to the Adam and Eves story in the forum, et cetera, and the audience can go there to kind of follow and see the way that unfolded a little bit.
1:52.9	You know, in general, he basically laid out, albeit a little bit in the peripheral or out of focus, sort of a unified theory on all of this cyclical civilization
2:03.1	stuff, for example, that you might get out of Graham Hancock and some of those guys, and he was
2:07.5	tying in the UAP thing. So it was really kind of a Herculean effort on Don's part to tie this
2:12.7	all together, which is pretty awesome. So I encourage the audience to go back and listen to Don make this case,
2:18.8	then go to the forum, and I just added some evidence more specifically some case studies on
2:24.9	U-Parts, which he brought up in support of the cyclical, you know, humanoid civilization thing.
2:31.7	So yeah, there's some science in there, and there's just good stuff. So you guys
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