The GM of the Phoenix Sons, Phoenix Sons, who had the fourth pick in the draft.

Ryan McDonough, right?

Sure.

He took Josh Jackson.

Josh Jackson, it was believed, had a lot of people in the, a lot of suitors in the NBA that were looking for him instead of Jason Tatum,

who will end up being a phenomenally average basketball player.

But Josh Jackson had a lot of suitors.

You didn't see a lot of people wanting to trade up for Jason Tatum.

We'll talk to Kevin O'Connor, who was a fan of Jason Tatum,

but then you also had people who had him ranked 9th or 10th on their board.

But Josh Jackson, yes?

Yes, Josh Jackson.

What do you like about Jason Tatum?

I like the fact that he can score.

I like the fact that he can penetrate and score, create his own shot.

I like that.

He fits in perfectly on this team because this team has a bunch of catch and shoot guys.

You like that he takes place off, that he's known for laziness, all those things.

He struggled.

Yes, there were times he struggled at Duke, but he really came on strong at the end.

He was playing his best basketball when it mattered. Does it bother you that he has the lowest ceiling of anyone that was taken in the top of the draft? It does not bother me, no. See, when they say the most NBA ready, that makes me think, okay, well, that's not a guy that's going to shine. I think as the third overall pick, and we went round and round on this yesterday, but just a quick summation of my thoughts, I think he will be a solid to above average starter on this team, on the Celtics team. How many minutes do you think he'll average this next, this coming year? This coming year? Well, you got to tell me who they're going to bring in first. No, but how, okay, so they don't do anything.

They don't do it. Which is highly likely, so they don't do anything.

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