June 19, 2025 - Steven Simon | Adam Weinstein | Mark Fitzpatrick
Background Briefing with Ian Masters
Ian Masters
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🗓️ 19 June 2025
⏱️ 65 minutes
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| 0:00.0 | Hello and welcome to Background Briefing, available 24-7 at Background Briefing.org. |
| 0:16.9 | I'm me and Masters, and today we'll examine a number of stories and issues in the news. |
| 0:21.1 | We'll begin with the United States poised to enter another forever war if Israel does not succeed |
| 0:27.1 | in ending Iran's nuclear program and bringing about regime change, and if Trump joins in |
| 0:32.9 | with what looks like the winning side now, but just like Iraq, it could turn out to be the |
| 0:38.5 | losing side in the long run. |
| 0:41.2 | Joining us is Stephen Simon, who worked on the National Security Council staff as Senior Director |
| 0:46.2 | for Middle Eastern and North African Affairs and also worked on the NSA staff on counterterrorism |
| 0:52.1 | and Middle East security policy. These assignments followed a 15-year career in the United States Department of State, |
| 0:58.2 | and he's currently a fellow in international affairs at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology |
| 1:02.4 | and the co-author of The Age of Sacred Terror, |
| 1:06.3 | and his latest book is Grand Delusion, The Rise and Fall of American Ambition in the Middle East. |
| 1:12.1 | We will discuss his article at Foreign Affairs. America should end Israel's war on Iran, not |
| 1:18.2 | join it. Then we'll look into the ignorance and hubris that led to the Iraq war, repeating itself |
| 1:25.2 | following yesterday's embarrassing Senate testimony by Secretary |
| 1:29.2 | of Defense Hegset, who clearly does not have a day after strategy should Trump decide to bomb |
| 1:35.2 | Iran. Joining us is Adam Weinstein, the deputy director of the Middle East program at the |
| 1:41.2 | Quincy Institute for Responsible Statecraft, a former Marine |
| 1:44.5 | deployed to Afghanistan. He previously worked as senior law and policy analyst at the National |
| 1:50.3 | Iranian American Council. We will discuss his article at the nation, Trump is blowing up soft power |
| 1:56.1 | and he's shooting America's diplomats in the foot. Then finally we will speak with Mark Fitzpatrick, |
| 2:02.6 | an associate fellow for strategy, technology, technology and arms control, and former executive |
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