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And now, here's Gene Steinberg.

So, ladies and gentlemen, let me tell you about Chris O'Brien.

He's on his way, as we speak, to something called the Utah Fest.

And that's another event that we'll hear about probably next week.

And maybe we'll have a guest or two from there.

So we'll see what happens.

All right.

So we have a fascinating episode today because we're going to talk again about that

book, UFOs reframing the debate.

And so far we've had on several of the contributors. We've had the editor, Robbie Graham.

We've had Greg Bishop, one of the contributors. We've had another contributor on after the

Paracast last week. So if you haven't joined Paracast Plus, this is a reason.

Red Pill Junkie.

And he's just terrific.

And this week we've got someone who hasn't been on the show for a while,

and we'll talk to him about that in a moment.

Kurt Collins, who also contributed to the book.

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