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It's Wednesday the 16th of June, yes, more than halfway through the month.

And here's the latest on travel and destinations from the Greenlist and the travel desk of the Independent,

which today is based in a cafe in Melbourne. Not that one in Victoria, Australia, but the original in South Derbyshire birthplace of Thomas Cook, who 180 years ago this summer democratised travel with the first organised

holiday which would take you all the way from Leicester to lovely Loughborough. Going further afield

today though the Boeing 737 max is on its way to Ryan F. Would you step aboard? Manchester passengers

will lose the Irish connection to America for the summer and the race is on. A rail record attempt is apparently happening tomorrow

morning between London and Glasgow. Of course this podcast is completely free as is my weekly

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come to you every Friday morning at 7am.

So I've been speaking to the boss of Ryanair this morning Michael O'Leary.

We talked about a wide range of subjects from the hijacking by the Belarus Air Force of one of his planes a couple of weeks ago.

You might recall it got invited to divert to Minsk, where a democracy campaigner was taken off the plane

and the current shutdown on travel, which is in effect pretty much everywhere from the UK at the moment.

But we also talked about the Boeing 737 Max.

Now, you possibly will recall that this is a plane which is associated with two terrible tragedies that killed, sadly, a total of 346 passengers and crew.

First on Lionair in October 2019, flight came down shortly after taking off from Jakarta.

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