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I don't know if you've ever been to the Yosemite National Park, went with the family.

We climbed and we climbed and we climbed and climbed. Right.

Climmed and climbed and climbed. And going up this mountain, a huge trail. Mm-hmm. These old ladies are coming down. Right. I'm like, I've climbed three hours. It's steep. And I mean, they're 70, 80s years old. Okay. And they're coming down with sticks and stuff. I'm like, we're having a conversation. How did they get up here? It just baffled me. Did they climb the three hours that you climb? How could they pot? And they're on their way down. They look pretty fresh. It takes us like five hours. Get to the top of the mountain. I get to the very top. I mean, I am hurting. My whole body hurts.

All of us are just dying. Okay. And there's a store up there that's selling ice cream. Oh, that's nice. And there's all sorts of people that drove their cars up there. And we didn't know. That you could drive us. I was just, I was looking around. I was mad at people. I'm like, who are you?

That is so cheap. I was just I was looking around I was mad at people I'm like

who are you

that is so cheap

it's just so cheap

it's cheap but you didn't know

we didn't know

right and there's just

people pushing kids around

there's people dogs on leashes

people not breathing heavy

muscles hurting oh yeah they're enjoying themselves literally it's ice cream coffee a whole store People with dogs on leashes. People not breathing heavy. Oh, yeah. Muscles hurting.

Literally it's ice cream, coffee, a whole store. It's a fun place if you don't have to climb up there. Yeah, you climb the very top of the hill. Everybody's already there. They're like, hey, why did you do that? I don't know. I don't know. you may want to do this sometime and that is call us and ask a question or chime in about something we're talking about. The phone number is always 85590, Brandt. I love this question so much because it's just so honest. It's basically, Brand, I heard you talk about this, but I don't really care about it very much. It's such a great question. Maybe you'll, maybe you resonate with us.

Listen to this.

Hi, Brent.

This is Catherine.

I was wondering if you could talk a little more about wisdom, because I've heard you say

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