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or pelvic health specialist. Hello, it's Monday the 5th of July and thanks for joining me for

the latest on travel and destinations from the Green List and the travel desk of the Independent.

180 years on from Thomas Cook's first excursion, what is his enduring legacy?

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Well, 5th of July 1841 and Thomas Cook's first excursion set off.

It was going all the way from lovely Leicester to Loughborough in Leicestershire, and that was a distance of 12 miles.

At the time, Thomas Cook, the man, was a Baptist preacher, but he recognised that technology was changing travel in the shape of the railways and that you could democratise travel.

And he's been doing that, well, for much of his life and his legacy lives on.

The fact that you and I can, in normal times, go to so many different places with such good

value and such safe standards is largely down to him.

Anyway, I wanted to celebrate that great event 180 years ago.

No, I wasn't on it, but thanks for asking, and find out where people found that he had made

such a difference. So I said, well, here we are, of the key destinations

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