July 21, 2024 — Joel Stern Explores Amazing Poltergeist Case

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🗓️ 21 July 2024

⏱️ 110 minutes

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Summary

Gene and cohost Tim Swartz present the odyssey of Joel Stern, someone who found himself in the paranormal field. So he was a staff translator and reviewer in the Office of Language Services at the U.S. State Department in Washington, DC, for 28 years. In 1988, he learned of an amazing poltergeist events that occurred in southern Poland. The incredible ghostly phenomena was centered around a teenage girl named Joasia Gajewski and eventually become national news in Poland. What makes the Gajewski case groundbreaking is that it continued for some seven years with such consistent energy that scientists were able to study it. The original version of book chronicling the cases,”The Elusive Force,” was written in Polish. Stern translated the book into English, then spent decades attempting to get the book published, which finally occurred in 2023. He also visited Joasia and her family during the process and has important insights into the people and their circumstances around this groundbreaking case.

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0:00.0	You're in the Paracast. You're in the Paracast, the gold standard of paranormal radio.
0:28.2	And now, here's Gene Steinberg.
0:33.2	Back on the Paracast this week.
0:35.9	We'll introduce our special guest, Joel Stern.
0:38.7	In just a few moments right now, Tim and I will talk about a couple of things.
0:42.8	Now, Tim, we actually ended up having to postpone this effort for over 24 hours.
0:47.7	So I guess it was some kind of paranormal phenomenon, Tim, that prevented you from getting back in time for the original recording
0:55.4	session? Yeah, paranormal weather phenomenon. I'll put it that way. Well, you know, this week
1:04.9	has been a rather, I guess, wild week weather-wise, but I was in California and then I was supposed to fly to Denver,
1:14.6	but the Denver airport ended up getting shut down because of storms.
1:20.5	So fortunately, the airlines were able to route me around to get me to my final destination, but it took what would
1:32.2	have been, you know, like just really a half a day of flying, ended up being almost, well,
1:37.8	not almost more than 24 hours of flying as I went from one city to another and then a red eye from San Francisco to Chicago
1:48.9	and then finally to my ultimate destination.
1:52.4	So, yeah, lots of fun.
1:55.7	Extraordinary.
1:56.7	Extraordinary.
1:57.5	It makes you wish, Tim, that we had Stargates. Because if we had a stargate,
2:03.2	you would just enter the stargate and find yourself right home. We're in another galaxy,
2:08.9	depending on your point of view. Yeah, my luck, I would end up in another galaxy someplace.
2:15.6	Speaking of alternatives, as our listeners know, we have been posting or re-releasing classic
2:21.7	episodes of the Paracast lately.
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