July 19, 2002
On the Media
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🗓️ 5 May 2011
⏱️ 53 minutes
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| 0:00.0 | From WNYC in New York, this is NPR's On the Media. I'm Brooke Gladstone. |
| 0:22.5 | And I'm Bob Garfield. In an internal memo released to Congress this week, |
| 0:26.8 | Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld invade against leaks to the press. |
| 0:30.9 | He said they cost the lives of Americans and diminished, quote, |
| 0:35.3 | our country's chance for success in the war on terror. |
| 0:39.2 | Rumsfeld's memo followed reports in the New York Times, written by Eric Schmidt, |
| 0:43.7 | that outlined in surprising detail plans for a future U.S. invasion of Iraq. |
| 0:49.0 | We're joined by Scott Armstrong, founder of the National Security Archive, |
| 0:53.4 | and occasional OTM leakologists. |
| 0:56.0 | Scott, welcome back to the show. |
| 0:57.3 | It's good to be here, Bob. |
| 0:58.6 | All right, you've seen Secretary Rumsfeld's July 12th memo. |
| 1:02.7 | What do you make of it? |
| 1:03.9 | July 12th, Rumsfeld is sending around to his senior staff. |
| 1:07.7 | A reminder to get your people under control, the classified information is not |
| 1:12.6 | to be leaked, the impact of leaks can have major consequences. |
| 1:15.6 | It was attached to a CIA memo that was written in the middle of June, which he'd seen |
| 1:20.6 | in the middle of June. |
| 1:21.6 | That memo dealt with Al-Qaeda and the fact that Al-Qaeda makes use of information it reads |
| 1:26.6 | in the press and defeating counterterrorism and counterintelligence activities of the government, |
| 1:31.3 | if that had been the critical point, it would have been circulated by Rumsfeld in the middle of June. |
| 1:36.1 | It wasn't. It was in the middle of July, and it was because of that Schmidt article |
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