meta_pixel
Tapesearch Logo
Log in
On the Media

July 11, 2003

On the Media

WNYC Studios

News, Radio, Amendment, Transparency, History, Micah_loewinger, Technology, Advertising, Politics, Society & Culture, Magazine, Journalism, Tv, Wnyc, Newspaper, Brooke_gladstone, Studios, Npr, Newspapers, Media

4.69.1K Ratings

🗓️ 5 May 2011

⏱️ 53 minutes

🧾️ Download transcript

Summary

Transcript

Click on a timestamp to play from that location

0:00.0

From WNYC in New York, this is NPR's On the Media.

0:22.0

I'm Brooke Gladstone.

0:28.1

And I'm Bob Garfield. This week, while President Bush toured Africa bestowing American goodwill.

0:32.4

Back home, the war in Iraq was generating some bad vibes.

0:37.3

There's the fury of some military families over the mounting death toll in Iraq, the nagging questions

0:38.5

about the ever-elusive weapons of mass destruction, the administration admission that there's

0:43.3

no evidence that Saddam Hussein purchased uranium from Niger and the official rewrite of

0:49.3

the capture of Jessica Lynch. Thread by thread, the administration's tightly coordinated war message

0:55.5

appears to be unraveling. Journalist and former presidential advisor David Gergen joins me now. David,

1:01.8

welcome back to O.T.M. It's good to talk to you again, Bob. It seems that the White

1:06.3

House is just sputtering. The swagger and the confidence seem to be gone. Is that your take? And if so,

1:12.9

do you think that's going to have political consequences for the public at large?

1:16.6

I wouldn't go so far as to say the swagger is gone, but I would say that they're on the defensive.

1:20.5

And I think unless they come to grips with this, soon it will have political consequences.

1:25.0

I was surprised by the president this week while he was in Africa,

1:28.2

being fairly dismissive of the charge over Niger and whether the fabrication and what got

1:33.2

into his speech on the study of the union, rather than being defensive, I would have counseled

1:37.2

him to go on the offensive and to be angry about what happened within. Why in the Dickinson,

1:41.6

anybody let him say that? I start with a position that the president

1:44.8

himself thought it was true. Well, that's one place to start. There are other places to start.

1:50.2

Well, but if you assume that, then the natural response from somebody who's been misled by his own

1:54.7

administration is to be angry and let them head's roll for how this information got into his speech

...

Please login to see the full transcript.

Disclaimer: The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from WNYC Studios, and are the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Tapesearch.

Generated transcripts are the property of WNYC Studios and are distributed freely under the Fair Use doctrine. Transcripts generated by Tapesearch are not guaranteed to be accurate.

Copyright © Tapesearch 2026.