Hi, this is Libby Owens, and you're listening to the award-winning podcast, Moms Don't Have Time to Read Books.

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Julie Metz is the author of Eva and Eve, a search for my mother's lost childhood and what a war left behind. Julie is the New York

Times bestselling author of the memoir perfection. She has written on a wide range of women's

issues for publications, including the New York Times, salon, redbook, dame, glamour, and the story site, Mr. Bellar's neighborhood. Her personal essays have appeared in the anthologies The Moment and The House That Made Me. She has been a fellow at the McDowell Colony, Yado, and the Virginia Center for the Arts. She currently lives with her family and two cats in New York's Hudson Valley. Welcome, Julie. Thank you so much for coming on

moms don't have time to read books. And thank you so much for having me. I'm really pleased to be here.

Hold up your book because I saw a like a finished copy. It's so exciting.

And they did such a nice job. It's like embossed and, you know, spot lost and all kinds of stuff.

So that's really exciting when you finally get one in the mail. I can't wait. Oh my gosh.

Well, as I've told you over Instagram and a few minutes ago and everything, like I have just been so riveted by and immersed in this book.

I have not been able to put it down, which is the best

feeling. And yet, I've been reading it slowly, which I also rarely do, because I feel like

your sentences are so beautiful, like the way that you write and how you conjure up images with

your words. And it's like this great confluence of a great story and a great way that

you told it with the modern day and back in Vienna. And I've learned so much. And anyway, I am just

such a big fan of this book. Oh, wow. Well, thank you. That's amazing to hear. You know, it is hard when

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