Julie Bindel - 100,000+ Underage Victims: This Has Been Going On Longer Than We Know…
The Winston Marshall Show
Winston Marshall
4.8 • 658 Ratings
🗓️ 14 February 2026
⏱️ 69 minutes
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Summary
In this episode of The Winston Marshall Show, I sit down with investigative journalist and feminist campaigner Julie Bindel for a forensic and deeply disturbing conversation on Britain’s grooming gang scandal, institutional failure, and the ongoing cover-up.
Julie traces the origins of the r*pe gang crisis back to the 1990s, long before it became national news, and explains how police, social services, and local authorities repeatedly ignored warnings from families. We discuss cases from Leeds, Blackpool, Rotherham, Telford, and London, and examine why organised child sexual exploitation by predominantly Pakistani Muslim gangs was treated as politically untouchable.
The conversation explores the role of multiculturalism, fear of being labelled racist, and the systematic refusal to prosecute perpetrators or protect victims. Julie outlines how many abused girls were instead criminalised, dismissed as troublesome, or left trapped in prostitution, while those responsible faced little accountability.
We also examine Sadiq Khan’s denial of grooming gangs in London, the contrast between county lines drug crime and organised r*pe networks, and Rupert Lowe’s independent inquiry into the scandal.
Julie argues that without a full statutory inquiry, with real legal consequences, justice will remain out of reach for thousands of victims.
A harrowing and unflinching discussion about child sexual exploitation, state failure, political cowardice, and whether Britain is finally prepared to confront one of the darkest chapters in its modern history.
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Chapters
00:00 Introduction
02:41 The Origins of Grooming Gangs
07:13 Police & Social Services Failures
09:41 Why the Media Refused to Report It
14:28 The Charlene Downes Case Explained
18:55 The Guardian Rejection
22:23 Politics & Institutional Fear
26:37 The London Grooming Gangs Reality
31:53 Sadiq Khan, County Lines & Race Baiting
35:48 Why the Victims Were Blamed
47:16 The National Inquiry & What It Must Expose
53:22 Trafficking Girls to Pakistan
59:58 “Hundreds of Thousands” of Victims
1:02:25 Quashing Victim Convictions & Amnesty
1:05:09 Starmer, Political Will & What Happens Next
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| 0:00.0 | Hello and welcome to the Winston Marshall Show with me, Winston Marshall. |
| 0:03.6 | I sat down with the journalist Julie Bindle for a look at the National Inquiry going on in Parliament this week, |
| 0:12.2 | led of course by Rupert Lowe and ignored, of course, by most of the mainstream media. |
| 0:18.7 | In this conversation, Julie covered not only what she was going to say and |
| 0:22.8 | what she's now said in the National Inquiry in Parliament, but we looked at Stama's failures, |
| 0:28.0 | Sadiq Khan's failures, the grooming gangs in London, which has been little reported, as well as |
| 0:33.5 | her long history covering this story all the way back to the 1990s, well ahead of her peers. |
| 0:41.3 | Before you hear from Julie, I just wanted to say thank you. |
| 0:44.8 | Thank you for your continued support without which we could not keep this show on the road. |
| 0:48.5 | And if you head over to Winstonmartial.com.uk, not only will you enjoy ad-free viewing and listening, but you'll have the |
| 0:56.1 | opportunity to ask future guests your questions. That's all at winstonmartial.com.com. |
| 1:03.2 | But without further ado, Julie Bindle, thank you so much for coming to speak with me. You've been |
| 1:10.5 | covering the ongoing |
| 1:12.3 | rape gang scandal for decades. You're one of the first journalists, perhaps the first |
| 1:17.5 | journalist to report it in the broadsheets in the Times back in 2007, I think it was. And |
| 1:24.5 | you actually came across this story in the 90s. I want to cover, of course, with you Rupert Lowe's Inquiry, the National Inquiry under Stama and the London grooming ganges are heavily underreported, but you've been reported on it. But before we get to that, might I ask about your story, how did you first come to this horrible, wicked stuff we've |
| 1:50.0 | been seeing up and down our country? Well, before I was a journalist, I worked in research |
| 1:55.9 | looking at violence against women, rape, sexual assault, child abuse, all of those things that happen and |
| 2:02.9 | that have been happening for millennium. And in the 1990s, I was alerted to a group of mothers in the |
| 2:11.8 | main, some fathers, but mainly mothers, based in Leeds that call themselves Crop, the Coalition for the Removal of Pimping. |
| 2:20.7 | And it was set up by a woman called Irene Iverson, who was the mother of a girl who, three years |
| 2:27.7 | earlier, so this was 96 when I met her. So in 1993, her daughter Fiona was murdered. And Fiona was 17, and she was found dead in a car park in Doncaster. |
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