Quick content warning at the top of this episode, there will be discussion of a possible suicide with some detail.

Normally, I would avoid such details to avoid media-driven suicide contagion in line with the guidelines that I have been provided for such reporting.

Some detail is necessary to explain the questions in this

case, but I will be as brief as I can with them, and listener discretion is advised.

Two women were found dead in 1991, and the police concluded it was a murder suicide.

The families did not accept that answer, and it took multiple reinvestigations, case reviews, and three coronial inquest for that assumption to be fully challenged.

And then in the end, a surprise suspect emerged that said everyone had it wrong.

I'm Charlie and welcome to crime lines.

Hello and welcome to crime lines. Hello and welcome to Crime Lines. This week and next week, we are covering the same case because it really is just that big.

And I had to split it into two parts. I want to thank Shelley for recommending this case because it really is an interesting one,

and you can see how family advocacy and media attention can really change the course of a case.

And speaking of that, I do have a quick case update from an episode I did on Season 4,

episode 33, called Justice for Katie Palmer. For those who do not remember back in 2020, Katie Palmer was out walking with her husband one morning when a neighbor came

driving on the wrong side of the road, smelling of alcohol, and who admittedly couldn't see out of his windshield due to condensation.

He struck Katie and her husband John, seriously injuring John, and killing Katie.

You can hear more in my full episode about the issues with the investigation and the work

the family did in the aftermath of all of this to get justice.

When I interviewed John Palmer for that episode, they were still fighting.

And it was recently announced that after a case review, the DA took the entire case to the

grand jury, and the driver, Cody Todd Foster, was indicted on a charge of manslaughter.

As always, he has the presumption of innocence, but it is just a win to get this case to trial because

that is where it should have gone at the start. It's incredible to be able to announce that the family did

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