Hey friend, welcome to the Meer Christians podcast. I'm Jordan Reiner.

How does the Gospel influence the work of Meer Christians? Those of us who aren't pastors or

religious professionals, but who work as executive producers, sculptors, and

tutors. That's the question we explore every week and today I'm posing it to

Giuliana Rubio Seliger, a groundbreaking figure in the field of ballet as one of the few Mexican American choreographers in the world

Julianna and I recently sat down to discuss how God is using ballets about faith to reach

non-believers, how to not undersell the power of the Holy Spirit at work, and we also

did a whole riff on my favorite scene ever and this is us

NBC's famous TV show that powerfully illustrates the gospel and what it means for

our work. I think you guys are going to love this conversation

with my friend, Juliana Rubio Slager.

Julianna Rubio Slager, welcome back to the Muir Christians podcast.

Thanks so much Jordan, it's such a pleasure to be here.

You and I were just talking before we start recording.

I think yours is the first episode I ever recorded of the show back in 2019

It feels like forever ago. Oh, I know you've had a lot going on a pandemic to deal with no big deal your husband joining you in

ballet 5a and then I saw in 2023 you were awarded this position of National

Visiting Fellow at the School of American Ballet.

That sounds like a really big deal, is it? What is this thing?

Julia?

Oh my gosh, honestly, yeah, it's such an honor the school of American ballet is one of the most

prestigious and oldest schools not just in the US but across the world and I had the

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